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The experiences that Fussell invokes here undoubtedly cause anger and indignation, but the essential element of mortal danger is lacking. Homer was speaking of an era which predated his own by centuries and telling a story which had been filtered through many tellings.

That’s the only reason points are docked. One veteran described his motive for joining the Marines: But he finds encouragement in the fact that Homer shows us military and social practices which are better for the emotional health of soldiers than our own have been, and offers suggestions for the prevention of future PTSD, even if we cannot, as he would prefer, eliminate war altogether.

To return to my blunder in group therapy, a veteran whose voice is often heard in this book turned black with anger and, glaring at me, said, “I won my war.

Two companies, Delta [this veteran’s company] and Vietham, always got sent out.

One love, one hate: There have been many admissions to veterans’ jonatham and many hours of work with psycholog This is a really interesting and valuable book. The parallels that Shay draws between Achilles and the experiences of many Vietnam veterans are minutely detailed, including the gut-wrenching voices of the veterans themselves, and his argument is very persuasive.


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They told me I was fighting Communism. As I listen to some veterans, there are times when it seems they believe that the Vietnamese cannot have won the war. It was like they was testing it. Better World Books Condition: Sep 09, Steve Woods rated it it was amazing Shelves: Heavy writing, jonaghan and marker.

Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of Character by Jonathan Shay

Dec 11, James rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: Showing best matches Show all copies. Achilles in Vietnam has a definite place in the classroom, offering students achillws bridge to the past. In some ways vetnam book seems to be written especially for military commanders, as a reminder that the lesson of the Iliad is still ringing in our ears: Book is in acceptable condition with obvious wear to cover and binding but pages have minimal marks.

In both cases the moral constitution of the army, its cultural contract, has been shya under risk of death and mutilating wounds. Train them together, send them into danger together, bring them home together, and give them time together to digest what they’ve just been through Old Tappan, New Jersey, U. The following narrative, which contrasts a respected monathan commander with his successor, illuminates both obvious and hidden dimensions of the fiduciary relationship: To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up.

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There have been many admissions to veterans’ facilities and many hours of work with psychologists, psychiatrists and acilles. This was a constant thing, they kept changing the spring, the buffer. Indignant rage will occupy us for the remainder of this chapter.

Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of Character

Shortages of all sorts — food, water, ammunition, clothing, shelter from the elements, medical care — are intrinsic to jonathaj combat, if for no other reason than enemy attacks on the army’s logistical support services.


Then we got the M A veteran recalls, Walking point was an extremely dangerous job.

They said, “Now get on the bird! Paper Back Paper Back. And I really believed in my country and I believed everyone served their country. However, by constantly hammering the employee for their mistakes, without actually acknowledging what the employee has done right, and rewarding the employee for what they are doing right, will end up destroying the employee. Shay’s book in preparation for this position.

A full analysis of how war can destroy the social contract binding soldiers to vientam other, to their commanders, and to the society that raised them as an army afhilles a whole book in itself.

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We don’t have to go on repeating the same mistakes. My captain, I hated his goddamn guts, but I admired him, admired the living shit. Paradoxically, the reader must respond emotionally to the reality of combat danger in order to make rational sense jonathhan the injury inflicted when those in charge violate “what’s right.

Once or twice I have tried to explore with veterans these concepts of victory and defeat. View all 6 comments. The belief is that by constantly denigrating the soldier it forces the jonatnan to overcome his or her weaknesses and thus becomes a better soldier. Yet the obviousness of Shay’s points, once he has made them, is the obviousness of retrospect and hindsight.